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Postby syncro4us » 16 Dec 2019, 17:02

Anyone fitted an alarm / anti theft system to their syncro that is recognised by insurance companies

We have a syncro but although we were not thinking of fitting central locking as this could mean modifying the bodywork a lot but wanted to upgrade our immobiliser system or install additional or alternative dead locks to the front side and rear doors and top skylight

any Ideas?

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Re: security

Postby irishkeet » 16 Dec 2019, 17:52

syncro4us wrote:Anyone fitted an alarm / anti theft system to their syncro that is recognised by insurance companies

We have a syncro but although we were not thinking of fitting central locking as this could mean modifying the bodywork a lot but wanted to upgrade our immobiliser system or install additional or alternative dead locks to the front side and rear doors and top skylight

any Ideas?

Kevin


Would not waste time on deadlocks if they wanna get in they will

checkout Skytag for a tracker...
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Re: security

Postby lloydy » 16 Dec 2019, 18:10

agree with the above.
plus an alarm, if its cat1 and fitted by an approved installer the insurance will recognise it
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Re: security

Postby silverbullet » 16 Dec 2019, 19:17

Central locking isnt a big mod as such, but running the wiring is a painful task, also sourcing all the correct bits (rather than a DIY universal kit lash-up) can take a while.
More of a convenience mod than a security boost.
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Just make it unattractive to the opportunist, any pro scrote will take what they want anyway

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Re: security

Postby Jim San » 16 Dec 2019, 22:08

Quizzed my insurance company over this. In short, the money I would save on premium was not as much as I would be paying on subscription.
They were not offering any incentive :cry: For some reason they had it down as having a factory fit cat immobilizer :shock: and when corrected the premium didn't change.
My steering lock is recognised - but doesn't warrant a saving.
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Re: security

Postby syncro4us » 17 Dec 2019, 12:08

Phoned Classic line to update info
We came to the same conclusion IE spending £300-500 on an alarm system might have only a very little effect on the premium
Didn't even mention the steering lock as standard as it seems so obvious but will update the info
Alloy wheels seem to be considered as a modification ??? lots of T25 have them and the ones we have are the Mercedes ones put on in 1998 in Germany the Alurad 7JX15 with 215x75xR15 BF Goodrich Tyres which is the first time this has come up and we have had them on since we bought it in 2006 with 4 sets of new tyres.
also mentioned that the suspension just has the stronger springs that lift it a bit higher NOT a modification of the whole suspension system which they seemed to originally think so put that straight
any way overall the firm seem pretty accommodating and easier to get through than most.

Incidentally Carol Nash Only have 1 day car hire in the EU if a break down occurs and this is down from 18 days but Classic Line provide good European Cover and 14 days Car Hire in Europe so beware insurance companies are changing their
policies all the time without notification and Brent Acre would not provide European Cover at all till after Brexit whenever that is!!!!!! Useless for us

So we are getting there
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Re: security

Postby R0B » 17 Dec 2019, 13:30

Unless they are the original alloys that were made for these vans. :wink:

Alloy wheels seem to be considered as a modification ???
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Re: security

Postby shepster » 17 Dec 2019, 13:41

Agree with the visual deterrent along with secret switches etc.

On the subject of trackers, just be aware that GPS 'Blockers' can be bought quite cheaply rendering the vast majority of trackers useless.

I know people will say that the van can be tracked by 'triangulating' the phone signal, it can but you're not going to be able to do it!

All the data is gathered by using GPS and the GSM side of things is simply used for reporting back and for you to send instructions to the unit.
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Re: security

Postby Mocki » 17 Dec 2019, 15:35

io bought a so called "blocker" , it failed to stop my TK103b from telling me the location of my camper, and failed to stop it sending a text to tell me ....
im sure other more expensive than the £20 I spent do block, but im not sure im worried by this , lets face it if they were so sure they worked, why would they park stolen vehicles up for days after stealing them ???
its worth a £50 punt i would say ..... every little helps and all that .
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Re: security

Postby shepster » 17 Dec 2019, 16:31

Your right Steve I'm sure there are good and bad quality stuff out there.

As you know they only block the GPS, well not technically block but transmit at the same frequency but a lot stronger so in effect 'drowning out' the trackers ability to receive, so any texts will still be sent because it works off your phone signal.

All I know is a fella at work bought one for a tenner and as soon as he plugged it in, the satnav in the car we were in completely lost the ability to see any satellite's until he unplugged it.

I know lads who have them because their work vans are tracked and they use them so they can get off home early! bit naughty but there you go.
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Re: security

Postby lloydy » 17 Dec 2019, 17:06

There is good blockers, I had one, took it to my local.turned it on and and friends phones lost signal.
Thing is, the whole idea of a tracker is not to tell anyone you have one. If it's common knowledge, then people will come prepared.
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Re: security

Postby Jim San » 17 Dec 2019, 17:48

syncro4us wrote:Alloy wheels seem to be considered as a modification ???


Anything that isn't standard from factory is a modification.
Depends how the particular company want to play it.

The company I use don't mind most modifications as long as they are aware of them.

Stereo systems,
tow bars
roof racks
wheels
graphics/stickers
remapped ecu's
exhausts
suspension (lowered/raise/improved)
additional lights
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Re: security

Postby Splurt » 17 Dec 2019, 17:59

shepster wrote:I know lads who have them because their work vans are tracked and they use them so they can get off home early! bit naughty but there you go.


Very good to know, I will inform a few colleagues and let them be the guinea pigs! When the works done its done, but if you work harder to get it done sooner they just give you more. That's valuable leisure/maintenance time!
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