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Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 11:03
by Simon Baxter
clift_d wrote:There doesn't seem to be an option for conversions. :D

There isn't an option for ringers either!

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 12:57
by Simon Baxter
axeman wrote:could you add "assembled in japan" possibly?

neil


Added.

Neil, I would be interested to see your M code list if it's still there, or the metal plate under the left hand front seat.
The top right characters denote the destination as far as I know? be it a dealer or a country or particular dock
The factory from your VIN is Graz so I presume it was a partially built truck.
There must have been some international stipulation to say what constitutes a CKD kit or for it to say assembled in Japan, maybe missing widows or something trivial?
For it to say assembled in Japan there must have been some form of work at the other end to satisfy the authorities that it was a kit.
Maybe it was a cancelled order? Maybe they never left Austria? Maybe it was a tax fiddle to send stuff via Japan as it was cheaper? who knows? not really sure how you could find out either but it would be interesting to see how many there are out there and see if the drop within a certain VIN range

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 13:12
by Simon Baxter
It's difficult this.
I'm sure there are better ways of gathering data more accurately, things like taking data from the white paper sticker but some are now missing.
The paper sticker is also in the service book, who has one of those anymore?
There is the metal plate under the left front seat, PKN plate if you wish but it's not present of models with swivelling seats so Westy owners would not be able to use that.
Leaving the form open for people to add details themselves is also leaving it open to errors but I think that's something we're going to have to accept.
I can already see errors in the test data, I'm hoping it's people just entering stuff as I've asked but I can see a few "Type24" vans... :lol:
It would be nice to use PKN data as a reasonably accurate build date could be ascertained, maybe come back to this at a later date.
I will put a support ticket in with the form people to see if there is a way of stopping van bodies being selected if they have type 24 in the chassis and vise versa, stop people having a type 25 pick up..

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 13:13
by axeman
Simon Baxter wrote:
axeman wrote:could you add "assembled in japan" possibly?

neil


Added.

Neil, I would be interested to see your M code list if it's still there, or the metal plate under the left hand front seat.
The top right characters denote the destination as far as I know? be it a dealer or a country or particular dock
The factory from your VIN is Graz so I presume it was a partially built truck.
There must have been some international stipulation to say what constitutes a CKD kit or for it to say assembled in Japan, maybe missing widows or something trivial?

Will do when i get home and have stoked up the computer

Neil
For it to say assembled in Japan there must have been some form of work at the other end to satisfy the authorities that it was a kit.
Maybe it was a cancelled order? Maybe they never left Austria? Maybe it was a tax fiddle to send stuff via Japan as it was cheaper? who knows? not really sure how you could find out either but it would be interesting to see how many there are out there and see if the drop within a certain VIN range

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 14:00
by syncroandy
Si, well done for actually doing summat.. but have you looked at database design ? There's a thing called 'input validation'. Really the data input form should have as much as possible. eg. if VIN substring '24' is selected then the 'body type' menu should only present 245,6,7,8 as options. etc etc.

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 14:02
by Simon Baxter
syncroandy wrote:Si, well done for actually doing summat.. but have you looked at database design ? There's a thing called 'input validation'. Really the data input form should have as much as possible. eg. if VIN substring '24' is selected then the 'body type' menu should only present 245,6,7,8 as options. etc etc.

Beyond my capabilities.
It's probably in there somewhere.

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 15:08
by R0B
IIRC.Diamond Hell had one of those assembled in Japan ones.Not sure if Cates was the same one.

anyone remember "Cate", fairly sure her white double cab was one

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 15:42
by silverbullet
I know my data is bob on because I still have the service book (white sticker is in there along with blue "Freigabe" card) but the one on the bus is long gone.

Is there/will there be a mechanism to add/E D I T data (to one's own van only! Hidden partial VIN as password?)

Excellent work thus far though. Appeals to the nerd in me, daresay others too.

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 15:44
by Simon Baxter
Again Ian, I'm not that clever.
I think for editing data, at the moment it would probably better to re-submit.
Theres some nice features in the back of the website to show graphs of how many are this age and that age etc but I've not worked out how to get it to show on the results page.
We'll get there, one bit at a time.

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 15:47
by Simon Baxter
Oh, and I do have reg number look up from a supplier that does give me a little data so if I spot anything iffy I can correct it to a certain degree.
Thing is, reg number look up costs money per query and I don't want to annoy a supplier!

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 15:47
by silverbullet
PS I can appreciate that this is very much a beta. With the benefit of hindsight maybe using a second M-code list as a post-production checklist would narrow down potential errors in cataloging modifictions?

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 16:22
by syncroandy
Are we supposed to be able to view any data, 'cos I can't.. ?

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 16:29
by silverbullet
Don't think its supposed to be viewable just yet, more a case of submit some data to test the concept and see if it works/falls over and then take another look at it.

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 16:58
by Simon Baxter
That's it.

Re: UK T3 Syncro Register

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2016, 16:59
by axeman
Simon Baxter wrote:
axeman wrote:could you add "assembled in japan" possibly?

neil


Added.

Neil, I would be interested to see your M code list if it's still there, or the metal plate under the left hand front seat.
The top right characters denote the destination as far as I know? be it a dealer or a country or particular dock
The factory from your VIN is Graz so I presume it was a partially built truck.
There must have been some international stipulation to say what constitutes a CKD kit or for it to say assembled in Japan, maybe missing widows or something trivial?
For it to say assembled in Japan there must have been some form of work at the other end to satisfy the authorities that it was a kit.
Maybe it was a cancelled order? Maybe they never left Austria? Maybe it was a tax fiddle to send stuff via Japan as it was cheaper? who knows? not really sure how you could find out either but it would be interesting to see how many there are out there and see if the drop within a certain VIN range



its cold and pi55ing down here would be intrested to see what you make of the info.
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