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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby clift_d » 31 Jan 2016, 00:41

silverbullet wrote:Westy syncro only has a payload of circa 450kg for passengers, clobber and food/water, going by published data.


Actually, payload is 640kg for a high top Westy Syncro with TD engine. All about the figures as you say.

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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby silverbullet » 31 Jan 2016, 09:24

I was including a fat Bavarian driver
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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby silverbullet » 31 Jan 2016, 09:32

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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby lloydy » 31 Jan 2016, 10:19

Bugger all really isn't it, my family of four add up to about 210kg and thats light! Add on a couple leisure batteries, 50kg water, clothes ect.... They do carry the extra weight nicely though.

trailer like this would be nice..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Trailer-4X4-o ... Sw5dNWnhK2

But i reckon that it weighs the same as the van! :lol:
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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby silverbullet » 31 Jan 2016, 10:27

Westy only ever was a 2-adult/young family van.
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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby lloydy » 31 Jan 2016, 10:35

Well.. bit of a narrow view saying westy. Basically a T3 camper of any design.
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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby silverbullet » 31 Jan 2016, 10:48

Interchangeable terms ;)
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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby clift_d » 31 Jan 2016, 13:23

I'm not sure how the figures are worked out in your tables, although they appear to be marked as an estimate?

Even allowing for the driver the VW owner's manual quotes 655kg payload, subtracting an additional 15kg if you've got a TD.

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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby silverbullet » 31 Jan 2016, 13:30

The tables shown are from the Shraeder Typen Chronik book of the T3. There is no note to say that the kerb weight or payload (nutzlast) allows a nominal weight for the driver (fahrer) so I would assume not.
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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby lloydy » 31 Jan 2016, 15:49

interesting to read that the 16" package loses you 50kg, guess that is the extra weight of the wheels and things? But the 16" package means you don't have to travel 200kg lighter when going cross country.
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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby clift_d » 31 Jan 2016, 17:53

I'm not sure why that is, maybe it's a recommendation derived from performance? Weren't the 16" Syncros the only ones to come with a 4.83 final ratio and chassis strengthening, so reducing the load would make sense both in terms of gearing, but also in respect of not over straining an unreinforced frame?
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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby lloydy » 31 Jan 2016, 17:55

It was a 6.17 final drive. 4.83 is the other end of the spectrum.
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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby clift_d » 31 Jan 2016, 18:17

Oops. You know what I mean anyway. :D
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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby Mudlark » 01 Feb 2016, 21:49

Does your insurance company know you were 600 kgs over the GVW of your vehicle? Tut tut !!


One of the reasons i lost the bull bar !

Interestingly though; I did get pulled over at a peage on the way in to Paris around this time where a copious number of very keen gendarmerie were doing random vehicle checks, very thoroughly, including a device that weighed on the axles. Got fined for not having complete papers and waved on :)
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Re: SPRINGS AGAIN!

Postby syncropaddy » 04 Feb 2016, 17:14

Simon Baxter wrote:Boom, there they are, both of them!

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I should have put money on this!


The American Eagle has to be present you know! Its reassuring to know that when the inevitable happens (assuming rust hasn't killed the entire Syncro fleet in the meantime - excluding all the galvanised parts of course) there is scope for the 'I told you so' comment. Its not just overloaded Polish trucks that get busted you know!!
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