The T3200E thread

for questions and answers about alternative power transplants on the T25, GTi, Porsche,Subaru etc, this is the place. You must register to post but anyone can read.

Moderators: User administrators, Moderators

The T3200E thread

Postby silverbullet » 12 Aug 2018, 16:03

Aka an Oettinger wbx-6 3.2 that found me by chance and collected on the way to T3Busmeet. I wasnt even looking for one! So many details that you've never seen before, so here's a few sneak peek pics ;)
VW/Audi logos cast into the heads and its engine number 20 :O
Initial assement shows that its got a LOT of crank end float...
IMG_20180812_161850.jpeg
IMG_20180812_161850.jpeg (89.7 KiB) Viewed 7404 times
Image
IMG-20180812-WA0004.jpeg
IMG-20180812-WA0004.jpeg (93.28 KiB) Viewed 7404 times


Sent from my S60 using Tapatalk
'85 syncro Caravelle twin slider, '90 SA Microbus project

http://www.025motorsport.com
User avatar
silverbullet
Trader
 
Posts: 12754
Joined: 08 Jun 2009, 09:51
Location: Surrey Syncronaut #156
80-90 Mem No: 6908

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby 937carrera » 12 Aug 2018, 16:28

Oooh you lucky boy

I think that deserves one of these :mrgreen: and a :D

I assume this is the start of a rebuild thread ?
1981 RHD 2.0 Aircooled Leisuredrive project, CU engine
1990 RHD 1.9 Auto Sleeper with DF/DG engine
User avatar
937carrera
 
Posts: 3275
Joined: 05 Apr 2015, 19:29
Location: N Yorks.
80-90 Mem No: 16333

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby silverbullet » 12 Aug 2018, 16:46

Yes, it will need to opened up for a full going-over. I also secured this:Image

Sent from my S60 using Tapatalk
'85 syncro Caravelle twin slider, '90 SA Microbus project

http://www.025motorsport.com
User avatar
silverbullet
Trader
 
Posts: 12754
Joined: 08 Jun 2009, 09:51
Location: Surrey Syncronaut #156
80-90 Mem No: 6908

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby 937carrera » 12 Aug 2018, 16:56

That's one hell of an owners maintenance manual, is every page printed on an engine cover :?: :lol:
1981 RHD 2.0 Aircooled Leisuredrive project, CU engine
1990 RHD 1.9 Auto Sleeper with DF/DG engine
User avatar
937carrera
 
Posts: 3275
Joined: 05 Apr 2015, 19:29
Location: N Yorks.
80-90 Mem No: 16333

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby silverbullet » 12 Aug 2018, 17:27

No, that's all they gave you! :D

Sent from my S60 using Tapatalk
'85 syncro Caravelle twin slider, '90 SA Microbus project

http://www.025motorsport.com
User avatar
silverbullet
Trader
 
Posts: 12754
Joined: 08 Jun 2009, 09:51
Location: Surrey Syncronaut #156
80-90 Mem No: 6908

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby Winchweight » 12 Aug 2018, 18:32

Following with interest. :ok
www.thelittleredbus.com

VW 2.1 WBX DJ Syncro Doka
VW 1.9 TDi AHU Syncro Camper
User avatar
Winchweight
 
Posts: 1498
Joined: 26 Jul 2013, 17:19
Location: Shrewsbury / Brize Norton
80-90 Mem No: 12697

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby 937carrera » 13 Aug 2018, 08:48

Just been doing some reading around, 165hp for this engine. It really is one and a half DJ's isn't it
1981 RHD 2.0 Aircooled Leisuredrive project, CU engine
1990 RHD 1.9 Auto Sleeper with DF/DG engine
User avatar
937carrera
 
Posts: 3275
Joined: 05 Apr 2015, 19:29
Location: N Yorks.
80-90 Mem No: 16333

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby silverbullet » 13 Aug 2018, 18:18

Yes the 'S' spec is the high-compression version.

Sent from my S60 using Tapatalk
'85 syncro Caravelle twin slider, '90 SA Microbus project

http://www.025motorsport.com
User avatar
silverbullet
Trader
 
Posts: 12754
Joined: 08 Jun 2009, 09:51
Location: Surrey Syncronaut #156
80-90 Mem No: 6908

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby silverbullet » 15 Aug 2018, 09:40

Now that is what I call a wbx oil pump!

(Well, it does have to supply three more large bearings)
IMG_20180815_103722.jpeg
IMG_20180815_103722.jpeg (106.96 KiB) Viewed 7286 times


Sent from my S60 using Tapatalk
'85 syncro Caravelle twin slider, '90 SA Microbus project

http://www.025motorsport.com
User avatar
silverbullet
Trader
 
Posts: 12754
Joined: 08 Jun 2009, 09:51
Location: Surrey Syncronaut #156
80-90 Mem No: 6908

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby 937carrera » 15 Aug 2018, 09:51

One of the many unique items eh.

Can's see anyone borrowing that to fit to a WBX4, hope it's in good condition.

Do you know what the problem is with the engine, or is it a strip down and inspect jobbie ?
1981 RHD 2.0 Aircooled Leisuredrive project, CU engine
1990 RHD 1.9 Auto Sleeper with DF/DG engine
User avatar
937carrera
 
Posts: 3275
Joined: 05 Apr 2015, 19:29
Location: N Yorks.
80-90 Mem No: 16333

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby silverbullet » 15 Aug 2018, 10:27

Yes its covered in odd details like that.

Compression on two cylinders is down (I suspect burned exhaust valves)
Running rich (see above?)
Massive crank end float (about 2mm!)
Exhaust will need remaking, its complete but only good for a pattern.

It will be getting the full strip down but I will need to find some water seals, otherwise splice four into two...

The price was right and the opportunity wasnt going to come along again, so I said the immortal words "consider it sold"

Sent from my S60 using Tapatalk
'85 syncro Caravelle twin slider, '90 SA Microbus project

http://www.025motorsport.com
User avatar
silverbullet
Trader
 
Posts: 12754
Joined: 08 Jun 2009, 09:51
Location: Surrey Syncronaut #156
80-90 Mem No: 6908

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby 937carrera » 15 Aug 2018, 11:14

Have you done a leak test to confirm the leakage is from the valves, might as well before you pull it apart.

Good idea on alternate water seals, there's bound to be something out there that will bond sufficiently well.

Exhaust will be easy, just the pain of getting it all to fit in place when reassembling.

That just leaves the crank end float which of course is going to be the biggest issue. Do you even know if it is a one piece or three piece bearing, or another WBX6 special ?

I would have said the same too :ok
1981 RHD 2.0 Aircooled Leisuredrive project, CU engine
1990 RHD 1.9 Auto Sleeper with DF/DG engine
User avatar
937carrera
 
Posts: 3275
Joined: 05 Apr 2015, 19:29
Location: N Yorks.
80-90 Mem No: 16333

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby silverbullet » 15 Aug 2018, 13:03

It is circa 1988 so I'm not expecting to find early bearings, but I will remove the flywheel before the day is out and that will tell all.
For the head water seals, if push comes to shove (i.e. there are none left, although rumours of spare parts abound) I can potentially calculate and CNC mill an O-ring groove into the head face and then make "false" seals from alloy, which could then be bonded to the top of the water jacket walls.

Sent from my S60 using Tapatalk
'85 syncro Caravelle twin slider, '90 SA Microbus project

http://www.025motorsport.com
User avatar
silverbullet
Trader
 
Posts: 12754
Joined: 08 Jun 2009, 09:51
Location: Surrey Syncronaut #156
80-90 Mem No: 6908

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby Titus A Duxass » 15 Aug 2018, 13:31

silverbullet wrote:I can potentially calculate and CNC mill an O-ring groove into the head face and then make "false" seals from alloy, which could then be bonded to the top of the water jacket walls.

Sent from my S60 using Tapatalk


That's almost talking dirty!
VW T3 GTi Camper 2,0l ADY Old Timer
VW T3 GTi Großsraum Pritsche 2,0l AGG Old Timer
User avatar
Titus A Duxass
 
Posts: 5673
Joined: 24 Nov 2007, 08:22
Location: Cologne, Vienna and sometimes Leipzig
80-90 Mem No: 4475

Re: The T3200E thread

Postby silverbullet » 15 Aug 2018, 14:43

:D

Lunch break on the spanners.

The words were "wow" and "at least its only done for the flywheel"

I couldn't get the rear main seal out because the flywheel has swaged the alloy over :O

I wasn't expecting to find Passat 32B thrust washers in there either!ImageImageImageImage

Sent from my S60 using Tapatalk
'85 syncro Caravelle twin slider, '90 SA Microbus project

http://www.025motorsport.com
User avatar
silverbullet
Trader
 
Posts: 12754
Joined: 08 Jun 2009, 09:51
Location: Surrey Syncronaut #156
80-90 Mem No: 6908

Next

Return to T25 Alternative Engine Forum

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests