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How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 23 Apr 2019, 12:37
by maxstu
Gone a bit loose. Any ideas how to tighten where metal meets plastic.... yet still keep 360 articulation.
Ta Stuart

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Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 14 May 2019, 21:12
by RogerT
Sorry for being late to this particular party, but I’d suggest some tender loving care, as afforded by a delicately wielded appropriately sized hammer (I.e. quite a small one) working round the crease.

Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 14 May 2019, 21:34
by maxstu
RogerT wrote:Sorry for being late to this particular party, but I’d suggest some tender loving care, as afforded by a delicately wielded appropriately sized hammer (I.e. quite a small one) working round the crease.

:D it was getting a bit lonely, Roger...
Tried this method. The metal is surprisingly tough. And the plastic somewhat brittle. Im a bit ham-"interfered with" so concerned the wrong area may fracture if I start giving it some welly.
Tried pinching with a chisel..nothing.
I might try filling the void with non hardening bathroom sealant for a shot in the dark.

Party ON!! :ok

Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 15 May 2019, 16:54
by itchyfeet
I suggest you dribble some thinned varnish or paint into there.
not enough to glue it solid.

Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 16 May 2019, 08:58
by maxstu
itchyfeet wrote:I suggest you dribble some thinned varnish or paint into there.
not enough to glue it solid.

Another good suggestion..thanks

Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 16 May 2019, 10:08
by 937carrera
Unscrew the red knurled knob
Open the clamp
Take a flat file to the face that you have just exposed
Remove material carefully until it clamps tightly enough again

I suspect it's either wear on the top pin increasing the diameter, or corrosion on the bottom face giving the same effect.

Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 16 May 2019, 11:28
by itchyfeet
937carrera wrote:Unscrew the red knurled knob
Open the clamp
Take a flat file to the face that you have just exposed
Remove material carefully until it clamps tightly enough again

I suspect it's either wear on the top pin increasing the diameter, or corrosion on the bottom face giving the same effect.


I think he means it is loose where the metal tube is pinched onto the plastic clamp, so would not stay in position when bikes off.

I might be wrong though

Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 16 May 2019, 12:26
by 937carrera
I have a bike rack, but not a Fiamma one, or at least it is not exactly the same as Stuarts.

I read it as an inability to clamp the tube sufficiently when it is inserted, so either increase tube diameter or reduce clamp diameter. Maybe he has the solution to a problem he doesn't have yet. :D

Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 16 May 2019, 18:21
by maxstu
Wobbly socket betwix plastic frame holder and arm is the issue
:ok

Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 16 May 2019, 18:58
by diabolov
Try a centre punch instead of a chisel it will concentrate the force to a point rather then
along the chisel face. A blow on opposite sides to see how you go then maybe on the quarter
turn too....

OR drill and tap the tube, then a small screw to pinch the plastic bit ?!

Regards

M

Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 16 May 2019, 19:21
by maxstu
diabolov wrote:Try a centre punch instead of a chisel it will concentrate the force to a point rather then
along the chisel face. A blow on opposite sides to see how you go then maybe on the quarter
turn too....

OR drill and tap the tube, then a small screw to pinch the plastic bit ?!

Regards

M

Good point. Grub screws either side to add a bit of pressure

Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 16 May 2019, 20:02
by diabolov
Or a star head clamping knob

M

Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 17 May 2019, 08:08
by itchyfeet
maxstu wrote:
Good point. Grub screws either side to add a bit of pressure


This has to move right? so a grub screw will just gouge out plastic as you move it then become loose again, if it were fixed you could just put a bolt through.

Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 17 May 2019, 08:32
by 937carrera
I've been a bit slow on understanding the problem, is it that the deformation in the (metal) tube that holds the (plastic) clamp in place has slackened and is now wobbly ?
See the picture attached

The issue with pin punch marks or grub screws is that they may stop it rotating and create new wear, when I think you still need it to rotate through the 360 degrees. I'm going to assume there's a groove on the plastic which has worn.

What you need to do is to reduce the diameter of the tube, but all the way round. What you could do is to put something in the groove and "almost" all the way round, and then use a jubilee clip to compress the tube further. Think of it a bit like like a piston ring compressor acting on a ring

Re: How to tighten Fiamma bike clamp joint?

Posted: 19 May 2019, 09:12
by 937carrera
Resized to make the picture visible - sorted yet ?