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Jacking advice

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 07:51
by stevelane
Not had my T25 for long. I need to remove each of the wheels, one at a time, and leave the van on axel stands overnight whilst I paint each one.

Firstly, is my two ton trolley jack sufficient for the job and secondly, best place to jack in each four corners and place the axel stand?

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 08:28
by Winchweight
A 2T jack should be fine, although it may not have enough height. Jack on the jacking points and axle stands on the chassis cross member don't go under the van without both in place.

What are the stands rated at? I upgraded my cheap Halfords ones to 6T professional stands which are cheap as chips in Machine Mart, Screwfix etc.

I personally wouldn't leave it supported on just the Jack as they vary in quality and you wouldn't want to find your pride and joy on the floor in the morning.

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 09:08
by stevelane
Winchweight wrote:A 2T jack should be fine, although it may not have enough height. Jack on the jacking points and axle stands on the chassis cross member don't go under the van without both in place.

What are the stands rated at? I upgraded my cheap Halfords ones to 6T professional stands which are cheap as chips in Machine Mart, Screwfix etc.

I personally wouldn't leave it supported on just the Jack as they vary in quality and you wouldn't want to find your pride and joy on the floor in the morning.

Good point - I'm not sure about the rating of the stands but they came in a Halfords set with the two ton jack and I seem to remember they were the same - I have four of them so can easily double up to make sure

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 19:48
by stevelane
My axle stands are fine, they state 2T on them but you were spot on that my trolley jack is no where near high enough. I'm searching on eBay for high lift trolley jack, what sort of lift do I need?

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 20:47
by Winchweight
You could use a standard VW T25 Jack. It's a wind up type that fits into the jacking points. They're pretty good.

I might have a spare...

Sealy make a high lift bottle Jack that'd work too.

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 20 Mar 2016, 15:24
by stevelane
Winchweight wrote:You could use a standard VW T25 Jack. It's a wind up type that fits into the jacking points. They're pretty good.

I might have a spare...

Sealy make a high lift bottle Jack that'd work too.

Thank you, I can't believe after a couple of days of messing around I've just found the original jack in a canvass bag under the bed!!! Glad I hadn't bought one now lol

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 20 Mar 2016, 16:04
by bigherb
stevelane wrote:My axle stands are fine, they state 2T on them but you were spot on that my trolley jack is no where near high enough. I'm searching on eBay for high lift trolley jack, what sort of lift do I need?
You don't need a high lift jack just jack it up under the suspension arms and then put the axle stands under the jacking points.

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 20 Mar 2016, 16:07
by lloydy
crafter/sprinter bottle jacks are perfect and weight rated

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 20:26
by what2do
Winchweight wrote:You could use a standard VW T25 Jack. It's a wind up type that fits into the jacking points. They're pretty good.

I might have a spare...

Sealy make a high lift bottle Jack that'd work too.


Jesus, I'd never recommend that without a safety warning first, what if the jp's are rotten? :ok

I'm talking from experience but I was expecting it to happen so wasn't shocked that as I turned the handle, the van remained firmly on its wheels!

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 20:49
by stevelane
what2do wrote:
Winchweight wrote:You could use a standard VW T25 Jack. It's a wind up type that fits into the jacking points. They're pretty good.

I might have a spare...

Sealy make a high lift bottle Jack that'd work too.


Jesus, I'd never recommend that without a safety warning first, what if the jp's are rotten? :ok

I'm talking from experience but I was expecting it to happen so wasn't shocked that as I turned the handle, the van remained firmly on its wheels!

The same guy had already told me not to get underneath without the axel stands in place, which I wouldn't of anyway so I don't think he needs to go any further than that, it's kinda covered

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 21:47
by what2do
I meant it tongue in cheek. However, I'd recommend you have a good poke around checking for corrosion first. If it's suspect, use a trolley/bottle Jack instead.

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 29 Mar 2016, 06:51
by stevelane
what2do wrote:I meant it tongue in cheek. However, I'd recommend you have a good poke around checking for corrosion first. If it's suspect, use a trolley/bottle Jack instead.

Fair enough, sorry if I took it any other way, things don't always come across on text in the way they are meant.

Luckily the jacking points were clean and tidy, had a good poke around and they were solid. Feel much mow confident using them than I do with a trolley jack

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 29 Mar 2016, 09:38
by what2do
No problem, text format is often misinterpreted. To be honest, I believe most people would feel more confident using a hydraulic Jack rather than the wind up ones. The original one that came with the van is obviously fit for purpose but there's less risk of any mishaps with a trolley. I've got a few Elliot and lake bottle jacks bought off eBay, I've a bit of a fascination with them as they are top quality and built in an era when made in Britain stood for something.

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 29 Mar 2016, 12:35
by stevelane
what2do wrote:No problem, text format is often misinterpreted. To be honest, I believe most people would feel more confident using a hydraulic Jack rather than the wind up ones. The original one that came with the van is obviously fit for purpose but there's less risk of any mishaps with a trolley. I've got a few Elliot and lake bottle jacks bought off eBay, I've a bit of a fascination with them as they are top quality and built in an era when made in Britain stood for something.

I usually do until I borrowed one when I got the van, it came down so much quicker than I expected and almost trapped my shoulder underneath - Just made me a little weary. I also have a classic mini and have never used the jacking points on that, always use the trolley. Having said that me and three friends have also lifted it onto ramps so its a different animal lol

Re: Jacking advice

Posted: 30 Mar 2016, 07:07
by paperhouselad
I use a 2 ton trolley jack under the suspension but use a piece of hardwood ie 5" x1" sandwiched between to (spread the load) and limit any damage to the metal parts.