WBXOily
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Re: WBXOily
shopping list, £275 already for a top end refresh ( without labour) , I'm sure I will think of something else...
0.4mm shim
https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/t3-parts/e ... 0-4mm.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
0.32mm shim
https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/t3-parts/e ... -3542.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
99289 Speedi sleeve
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/99289-SKF-Spe ... 2281057745" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
VR Full gasket set
https://www.vwheritage.com/025198009b-g ... t-vw-spare" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
x4 DG piston ring sets
https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/t3-parts/e ... dh-cu.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
8x telescopic push rod tubes ( we binned the originals)
https://www.vwheritage.com/ac1094109a-s ... e-vw-spare" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
0.4mm shim
https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/t3-parts/e ... 0-4mm.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
0.32mm shim
https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/t3-parts/e ... -3542.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
99289 Speedi sleeve
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/99289-SKF-Spe ... 2281057745" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
VR Full gasket set
https://www.vwheritage.com/025198009b-g ... t-vw-spare" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
x4 DG piston ring sets
https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/t3-parts/e ... dh-cu.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
8x telescopic push rod tubes ( we binned the originals)
https://www.vwheritage.com/ac1094109a-s ... e-vw-spare" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: WBXOily
Cleaned up pistons and barrels tonight
This is common, green oring is unrecognizable
P1090532 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
this one won't even dig out so a quick blastt of the blow torch does the trick
P1090533 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
cleaned up with a nylon wheel
P1090536 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
honed
P1090537 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
No 3 has had it along with No 3 piston
P1090540 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1090539 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
No1 barrel is also IMO scrap, it sealed before but you have to wonder who put this back
P1080792 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
other pistons cleaned up OK
P1090541 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
I can almost certainly find a piston but finding two good barrels in my parts stash is not going to be so easy.
This is common, green oring is unrecognizable
P1090532 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
this one won't even dig out so a quick blastt of the blow torch does the trick
P1090533 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
cleaned up with a nylon wheel
P1090536 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
honed
P1090537 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
No 3 has had it along with No 3 piston
P1090540 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1090539 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
No1 barrel is also IMO scrap, it sealed before but you have to wonder who put this back
P1080792 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
other pistons cleaned up OK
P1090541 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
I can almost certainly find a piston but finding two good barrels in my parts stash is not going to be so easy.
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Re: WBXOily
Good stuff Paul - can you put a shout out for the barrels mate? Mines coming out Thursday now as rain stopped play this weekend!!
'86 DG, Weber Carb
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Re: WBXOily
300CE wrote:Good stuff Paul - can you put a shout out for the barrels mate? Mines coming out Thursday now as rain stopped play this weekend!!
looking forward to seeing pics of yours, like this one always good to see the reason for the symptoms.
I will check what I have first, trouble with used is most are scrap or get damaged in the post
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Re: WBXOily
A good sign that they are all the same weight ( includes one circlip no rings)
P1090542 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
as are gudgeons, 140-141 is typical
P1090543 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
went through all my DG pistons to see which sets had odd weights ( quite common when they have been repaired without care) or with damaged pistons.
3 good sets and two odd/damaged sets
P1090546 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
found two that are 463g and 464g weights, the weight groups are several grams so 3 grams is no problem
Measured up ( more consistent in an old barrel with something to raise it up to the right position to measure)
P1090547 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
one is a clear winner at 93.94
P1090548 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1090549 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
measurements are
No1 93.95/?needs barrel
No2 93.93/94.05 = 0.12
No3 93.94/?needs barrel
No4 93.97/94.06 = 0.09
P1090542 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
as are gudgeons, 140-141 is typical
P1090543 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
went through all my DG pistons to see which sets had odd weights ( quite common when they have been repaired without care) or with damaged pistons.
3 good sets and two odd/damaged sets
P1090546 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
found two that are 463g and 464g weights, the weight groups are several grams so 3 grams is no problem
Measured up ( more consistent in an old barrel with something to raise it up to the right position to measure)
P1090547 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
one is a clear winner at 93.94
P1090548 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1090549 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
measurements are
No1 93.95/?needs barrel
No2 93.93/94.05 = 0.12
No3 93.94/?needs barrel
No4 93.97/94.06 = 0.09
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Re: WBXOily
I had already honed and sorted the barrels I have to get some for WBXmayo so the best were easy to find, there are two that are OK to repair an engine, just some minor blemishes inside, I think I would be scraping the barrel to find any more to use
94.03mm and 94.05mm
P1090551 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
remeasured the others with the dial bore gauge and measurements were OK before.
so now we have
No1 93.95/94.05 = 0.10
No2 93.93/94.03 = 0.10
No3 93.94/94.05 = 0.11
No4 93.97/94.06 = 0.09
if only I had some rings to fit
P1090552 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
94.03mm and 94.05mm
P1090551 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
remeasured the others with the dial bore gauge and measurements were OK before.
so now we have
No1 93.95/94.05 = 0.10
No2 93.93/94.03 = 0.10
No3 93.94/94.05 = 0.11
No4 93.97/94.06 = 0.09
if only I had some rings to fit
P1090552 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
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Re: WBXOily
That ring fairy needs to chop chop so the job doesn't grind to a halt.....
Why would the glass be anything other than half full?
'89 panel van, 1.9 DG.
'89 panel van, 1.9 DG.
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Re: WBXOily
what2do wrote:That ring fairy needs to chop chop so the job doesn't grind to a halt.....
Yes but fitting the rings is a 30 minute job then the gasket kit fairy needs to pull her finger out......
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Re: WBXOily
Rocker covers are crusty too
Re: WBXOily rings
i have some .....see ad in 4 sale
oilrag.
oilrag.
'89 wbx DG lpg, 5 speed, twin slider, hi top.
There's always someone who has a bigger or better one .
There's always someone who has a bigger or better one .
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Re: WBXOily
I bet it would look real pretty with some Scat rocker covers......
Why would the glass be anything other than half full?
'89 panel van, 1.9 DG.
'89 panel van, 1.9 DG.
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Re: WBXOily
what2do wrote:I bet it would look real pretty with some Scat rocker covers......
Like a set of shiny alloys on a rusty van?
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Re: WBXOily
Rainy day perfect for moving this project on.
new crank oil seal
P1100127 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
cleaned lower oring sealing surfaces and studs
P1100130 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
replaced the 1D helicoil with a cut down one
P1100132 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
hello?
P1100133 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
cleaned piston ring grooves
P1100135 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
burrs off with reamer so pins slide more easily
P1100211 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
rings on, these barrels are laid out as they will be fitted so that rings are the right way up and easy to see so they are in the order 2 1 flywheel 3 4
P1100213 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
into barrels, I prefer front entry not rear entry
P1100214 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
new lower barrel seals
P1100218 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1100220 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
always check clips rotate with one eye pushed toward the other, if not they are not seated.
P1100227 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1100228 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
other side, tuns over nicely.
P1100229 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
head nuts cleanaed with a tap, sealing surface cleaned on wet and dry and then all cleaned in a bath of meths
P1100230 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
why did I touch it...
P1100231 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
drilled and fixed with a helicoil
P1100233 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
heads cleaned up ready to fit also, one rust stud left
P1100234 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
new crank oil seal
P1100127 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
cleaned lower oring sealing surfaces and studs
P1100130 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
replaced the 1D helicoil with a cut down one
P1100132 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
hello?
P1100133 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
cleaned piston ring grooves
P1100135 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
burrs off with reamer so pins slide more easily
P1100211 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
rings on, these barrels are laid out as they will be fitted so that rings are the right way up and easy to see so they are in the order 2 1 flywheel 3 4
P1100213 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
into barrels, I prefer front entry not rear entry
P1100214 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
new lower barrel seals
P1100218 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1100220 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
always check clips rotate with one eye pushed toward the other, if not they are not seated.
P1100227 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1100228 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
other side, tuns over nicely.
P1100229 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
head nuts cleanaed with a tap, sealing surface cleaned on wet and dry and then all cleaned in a bath of meths
P1100230 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
why did I touch it...
P1100231 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
drilled and fixed with a helicoil
P1100233 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
heads cleaned up ready to fit also, one rust stud left
P1100234 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
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Re: WBXOily
dry moly on studs
P1100235 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
green o rings on
P1100236 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
everything degreased with meths, head sealing surfaces and head nut sealing surfaces
sealant both sides of water jacket seal
P1100239 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1100240 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
compression seals in
P1100241 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
yellow sealant on nuts
P1100243 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
torqued to 50 in 10Nm stages
P1100244 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
scat big mouth push rods tubes in, pushrods in and rocker gear on, you can use a torch to see the pushrods are seated in tappets
I have NOT reset the adjustments.
P1100247 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
Last job is the flywheel
Speedi sleeve needed but they need cutting down to about 8mm, I use a dremel cutting disc
P1100250 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
notch it but don't go too close to the score, I did that on the last one and it split
P1100252 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
I use Dirko HT to seal it then bang it on with the tool and peel off the rim
P1100256 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
tiny bit proud in one place so filed it flush
P1100257 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1100258 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
all the shims in and the oil thrower and bang the seal in fully underflush so the seal sits central on the 8mm spedi sleeve ( I measured it)
P1100261 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1100263 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
these can leak so added a smear of Dirko HT
P1100264 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
110Nm
P1100265 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
Another WBX saved
P1100266 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1100235 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
green o rings on
P1100236 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
everything degreased with meths, head sealing surfaces and head nut sealing surfaces
sealant both sides of water jacket seal
P1100239 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1100240 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
compression seals in
P1100241 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
yellow sealant on nuts
P1100243 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
torqued to 50 in 10Nm stages
P1100244 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
scat big mouth push rods tubes in, pushrods in and rocker gear on, you can use a torch to see the pushrods are seated in tappets
I have NOT reset the adjustments.
P1100247 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
Last job is the flywheel
Speedi sleeve needed but they need cutting down to about 8mm, I use a dremel cutting disc
P1100250 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
notch it but don't go too close to the score, I did that on the last one and it split
P1100252 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
I use Dirko HT to seal it then bang it on with the tool and peel off the rim
P1100256 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
tiny bit proud in one place so filed it flush
P1100257 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1100258 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
all the shims in and the oil thrower and bang the seal in fully underflush so the seal sits central on the 8mm spedi sleeve ( I measured it)
P1100261 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
P1100263 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
these can leak so added a smear of Dirko HT
P1100264 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
110Nm
P1100265 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr
Another WBX saved
P1100266 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr