Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby jes*b » 09 Dec 2011, 19:53

Ah, good info Dai. So if I cut acess hole I've still got to get bolt out of threaded bar?
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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby Dai » 09 Dec 2011, 20:54

i reckon theres a chance,if the threads have gone on the bolt or retaining bar and the bolt is spinning, that,by cutting the bolt flush with the top of the bar through an access hole that you would get it out.

The original bolt is a 28mm long m12 and 8.8 high tensile so drilling it may take a while
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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby silverbullet » 09 Dec 2011, 22:38

Jes, for what it's worth:
Sharp drill bits, heavy centre punch after cutting off to get a good start, run the drill slow not max rpm and plenty of pressure to keep the cut on, so it doesn't skid and blunt the edge. Don't use WD40 or lube oil to cool the drill - a drop of veg cooking oil is better than nothing at all if it gets desperate.
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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby jes*b » 09 Dec 2011, 23:07

Ah choices choices. Good advice Ian - I have cutting fluid in a can - any good for this job if I need to cut 'n drill ? Dai - I reread your train of thought am I correct in thinking you are suggesting cut hole, cut bolt flush , cut head of bolt flush then try and joggle bar out . Or do you mean cut hole , cut thread and then try and wind bolt out normally? ( it would still be threaded so not sure how this would work ) sorry just thrashing it out in my own head :D
Still , got a box of goodies from Aidan today :ok , managed to open the box and remove contents without fu* king it up. there's a first.
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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby jebiga41 » 10 Dec 2011, 05:07

From doing a 2wd to 4wd conversion removing the parts and also installing them. The bar in question ( if i get you right)is a piece of threaded bar no captive nuts you can see a part of it sticking out the front of the chassis with a small lug extendingfrom the slot try putting two drill holes above and cuttingan access slot above the bar and grinding down the bolt heads drop the subframe and grind down flush to chassis rails then extend the slot upwards enabling you to slide out the threaded bar and bits of bolts in it with a vice grips as Dai suggested. Would imagine its quicker than filling out bolts and it doesn't matter about the size of the slot as the bar is the strength and the holes are the positions I replaced the original 8.8"s with 10.9's lots of copper grease and sprayed in loads of waxoyl on tinkerbelle. Hope that makes sense.
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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby jebiga41 » 10 Dec 2011, 05:16

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jes*b wrote:trying to remove sub frame at front to sort rust on and around it and having trouble with same bolt on either side :evil: Its the forward one on the rear bracket - both are threaded - i think they bolt into a bar that slides down inside the chassis (according to bentley) as they are neared the slot cut to let the bar in i presume water penetration has corroded the thread. I could grind off the head and try and drill out the stud would then need to remove and remake or re thread the bar? Anyone else tacked this?
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Here you go, http://campervanculture.com/2011/11/rep ... ty-syncro/

It does help though having ramps and being mates with the best Syncro Specialist in the UK. I have seen some "specialists" talk about changing a fuel tank like its conquering MT Everest but Russel really knew how to advise the best route in Jakes case correctly so Jake could get involved in helping sort his problem out. Kind of sorts out the wheat from the chaff...

I believe its quite involved but in for a penny hey!!!

Sorry Jed if I'm a bit slow drunk and out of it but What the blithering heck are you on about ?

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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby Dai » 10 Dec 2011, 10:10

jes*b wrote: Dai do you mean cut hole , cut thread and then try and wind bolt out normally? ( it would still be threaded so not sure how this would work ) sorry just thrashing it out in my own head :D


yep thats it,you say the bolt is just turning and not coming out.....so it seems to me that the threads in the bar have stripped off.

By cutting all the threads above the bar the bolt should come out because the threads arent meshing

heres a couple of photos of my subframe with the retaining bar attached ....may be of help

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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby jed the spread » 10 Dec 2011, 10:10

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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby silverbullet » 10 Dec 2011, 16:59

Nice reference pic of complete syncro driveline front end on workshop trolley for someone :?
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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby jed the spread » 10 Dec 2011, 17:25

lloydy wrote:Nasty bit of rust there, I think jake just posted a vid on campervanculture doing the repair on it.


jed the spread wrote:
I believe its quite involved but in for a penny hey!!!

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jebiga41 wrote:
I believe its quite involved but in for a penny hey!!!

Sorry Jed if I'm a bit slow drunk and out of it but What the blithering heck are you on about ?


CampervanCulture link wrote: I visited syncro specialist Syncro-Nutz up in Scotland for fellow syncro lover Russel to have a look at. Turns out the inner part was rusted pretty badly too and the entire front subframe with diff etc needed to be dropped to provide access..


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silverbullet wrote:Is that ^^^ in the correct thread? Nice reference pic of complete syncro driveline front end on workshop trolley for someone :?


Yes is the answer to your question before you edited it.

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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby axeman » 10 Dec 2011, 19:48

what has this got to do with sub frame bolt?

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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby alewing » 10 Dec 2011, 20:46

Jes,
How are you doing with this? I'll be back in the shed on Tuesday if you want me to have a look? :ok
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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby jed the spread » 10 Dec 2011, 20:48

axeman wrote:what has this got to do with sub frame bolt?

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On Lloydy's suggestion that Jake/Russel had done similar work to the under side of his and the removing of the subframe and put it on his website, (I personally considered it as "involved" removing the subframe) the information about it being double skinned and the article Jake took the time to put together that the OP may or may not find useful or may not know.

Its all about helping each other out I guess, if you personally dont think its relevant then best to ignore it I think :ok

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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby silverbullet » 10 Dec 2011, 22:12

jed the spread wrote:
silverbullet wrote:Is that ^^^ in the correct thread? Nice reference pic of complete syncro driveline front end on workshop trolley for someone :?


Yes is the answer to your question before you edited it.

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Blimey that's a bloody big horse you're riding on there fella, must be 17 hands high...

I still don't get how a pic of a major sub-assembly on the floor has bugger all to do with major corrosion repairs that others have tackled?

Sorry Jes, this is a derailment. Back to the work!
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Re: Getting the Panel Van show on the off road

Postby jed the spread » 10 Dec 2011, 23:01

silverbullet wrote:
jed the spread wrote:
silverbullet wrote:Is that ^^^ in the correct thread? Nice reference pic of complete syncro driveline front end on workshop trolley for someone :?


Yes is the answer to your question before you edited it.

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Blimey that's a bloody big horse you're riding on there fella, must be 17 hands high...

I still don't get how a pic of a major sub-assembly on the floor has bugger all to do with major corrosion repairs that others have tackled?



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axeman wrote:what has this got to do with sub frame bolt?

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On Lloydy's suggestion that Jake/Russel had done similar work to the under side of his and the removing of the subframe and put it on his website, (I personally considered it as "involved" removing the subframe) the information about it being double skinned and the article Jake took the time to put together that the OP may or may not find useful or may not know.

Its all about helping each other out I guess, if you personally dont think its relevant then best to ignore it I think :ok

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Blimey.. just trying to help the OP really, not that interested in a willy wagging contest.. like I said to your mate, "if you personally dont think its relevant then best to ignore it I think".


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