Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby mazz » 18 Jun 2015, 21:09

Thanks, we should have some photos for the end of next week, keep them peeled.
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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby syncropatrick » 19 Jun 2015, 09:42

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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby Mudlark » 19 Jun 2015, 14:45

Also a pair for 16" drums required here; really good to hear there may be a replacement available soon.

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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby lloydy » 19 Jun 2015, 14:58

I'd be more interested in the 16" disc version
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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby garyd » 24 Jun 2015, 21:39

On about page 3 of this thread -
AdrianC wrote:
lloydy wrote:14" rear hubs are €362
Strangely 14" hubs for abs equipped vans are €201.75


Obviously, an ABS van would need ABS hubs, so the sensors can be mounted.

But is there any reason why a non-ABS van couldn't use ABS hubs...?


Did this question ever get answered _ couldn't find anything? I would have thought that the ABS hubs would just have a hole for the sensor and perhaps a tapped hole for a retaining screw.
Is there anyone who has got ABS & can confirm this this?

In the meantime, has anyone who's going to syncropendence got a decent spare one they can bring along for me, please?

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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby silverbullet » 03 Jul 2015, 20:28

Remembered to spin up a dead housing on the lathe and take a cut, in an attempt to work out the material used:
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Note the granular, short ship swarf. Not grey dust so not made from cast iron, but I knew that already because they arent brittle.
Not stringy swarf either, so not investment cast steel despite the bright finish of the bearing bore.
That leaves malleable or ductile iron, either of which would need to be welded with nickel/stainless to prevent brittle welds.
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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby poshbuggers » 18 Aug 2015, 00:49

Had this issue recently with my 16" drum setup which is OK but hasn't provided as much braking improvement as I would have liked. The outer race was spinning in the hub and short timescales and an impending holiday mean't we opted for new bearings and bearing lock. I don't have much hopes for the longevity of this though.

I was looking at a disc setup for the future - Audi A4 312mm discs and calipers I think.

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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby orcecaveman » 19 Aug 2015, 12:59

mazz wrote:Thanks, we should have some photos for the end of next week, keep them peeled.


Any news on this Mazz?
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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby footstuck » 26 Sep 2016, 21:53

I'd be interested in a pair of Standard height for a 16" drum set up :ok
And maybe a second set :wink:
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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby HarryMann » 27 Sep 2016, 00:21

Think it's dead Nick (poss liability issues) but Sbaxter esq. Can get new copy carriers. However question is.. do they still fret and allow vertical rock (from day 1)

Personally think carriers can be fabricated from steel tube and plate. Same design but a more common . bearing
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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby silverbullet » 27 Sep 2016, 08:59

I haven't thought on this for a while, after Mario said his design was well on the way. I could re-investigate it in the coming dark months?

It would however need careful consideration and maybe a bulk-buy commitment once costs had been boiled down. There is also the small matter of liability...

I have the means to produce them in modest volume, that's not a problem.
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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby HarryMann » 27 Sep 2016, 12:13

Good to have a quick chat sometime Ian... been keen on this for years. Not ever had a bearing failure but don't like the vertical rocking play. At speed the flywheel and gyroscopic effects tend to keep it upright, but then there's flopping about at lower speeds and the MOT man.

A lot of Syncro people's problems are probably not offroad driving at all... but the large heavy wheels and tyres fitted, as well as the high weights some campers run at.

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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby footstuck » 07 Oct 2016, 00:24

I still need them mate :?:
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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby silverbullet » 07 Oct 2016, 09:54

An integral disc-mount design is being boiled down at the moment, a young man is on the CAD and stress analysis will be computed to check the final design for braking and axle loads.

It won't be backwards compatible with (or adaptable for) 14" or 16" drum brakes though, taking a clean sheet approach.

More info when there is something to show. A project like this eats up hours and I don't have many available.
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Re: Rear hub bearings - fresh thinking or already been done?

Postby jebiga41 » 24 Apr 2017, 10:00

Just found another rear moving in the usual vertical plane afterror only aboutique 8 monthe since I changed the bearing so back to the stash of rear carriers :( any more on this topic?
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