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Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 08:19
by lsidir
Hi everyone,

I have a bad cv joint on my 16" panel van. It is the front outer with the diff lock, so is the big one, with part no 251 498 099 C.

It seems that there is no replacement part to be found anywhere. So my questions to you are:

1. Does anyone have a spare to sell?

2. Can I use parts from another cv joint (e.g., balls, cage etc.) to fix the existing one? (I dont know exactly what is broken since I am still on the road and until I reach my destination I can not dismantle it and check).

3. Are there any alternatives to the original that I can use? Maybe from another car with some modifications? Anyone done something similar before?

Thank you very much for your help!

Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 14:04
by davidoft1
I read somewhere that they were Porsche 993 or 996 ones I think, I need one to but not for a while

Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 15:51
by 4x4 Bus
Change to the smaller outer joint and slightly thinner shaft.

Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 16:52
by Aidan
https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/cv-joint-kit-t3-syncro-16-front-outer-with-diff-lock.html

there were a pair of genuine new old stock ones on ebay a couple of months ago they went for Euro800

Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 17:12
by lsidir
Aidan wrote:https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/cv-joint-kit-t3-syncro-16-front-outer-with-diff-lock.html

there were a pair of genuine new old stock ones on ebay a couple of months ago they went for Euro800


I think I would pay 800 for a pair right now, I prefer that to the alternatives :|

Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 17:20
by jes*b
They seem to appear in small batches . I bought a pair last time they surfaced on brickwerks and then they were gone. Don’t know whether they are only reproduced by GKN in short runs or they just find a few boxes knocking around the factory.

Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 19:00
by 4x4 Bus
800 euro for 2 new shafts is cheap!

Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 19:25
by 937carrera
Speak to these guys - they manufacture driveshafts to order and have a good reputation

http://www.cpsdrivelink.co.uk/

Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 29 Aug 2018, 06:26
by Aidan
4x4 Bus wrote:800 euro for 2 new shafts is cheap!



just 2 front outer cv kits for the 800 no shafts or inner cvs, I did tell Fabzz at the time but he didn't press bin

Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 29 Aug 2018, 09:41
by 4x4 Bus
Aa only the joints. I think I will just sit on my shafts a joint then. Sold a complete one last year for £250. Far to cheap.

Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 01 Sep 2018, 16:21
by lsidir
4x4 Bus wrote:Aa only the joints. I think I will just sit on my shafts a joint then. Sold a complete one last year for £250. Far to cheap.


So, do you have stock for sale? Why sit on it and not sell it to me? :shock:

Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 01 Sep 2018, 16:40
by lsidir
So I finally managed to take apart the front cv. Always a messy job...

Here are some pictures. It looks to me that the damage is only on the cage and the inner collar, but not on the balls or the housing. So another idea is to find somehow spare parts, a cage and a collar.

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Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 02 Sep 2018, 08:22
by silverbullet
I would say that its worn out and any "repair" is just that, a Desert Rat/get-you-home recycling job, at best.
16" are a pain in the ring, imho.

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Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2018, 15:33
by lsidir
I also saw that lobro-gkn offers some kind of express repair service

http://www.gkngroup.com/GKNDrivelineServices/products/Pages/eXpress-repair.aspx

I still can not believe that if I give the dimensions (shaft perimeter, outer width etc.) there is no generic cv joint by lobro that matches those measurements.

Re: Front outer CV joint 16" w Diff Lock

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2018, 16:52
by 937carrera
Did you get to talk to these guys - they manufacture to exceed OEM standards, helpful and not as expensive as you might think

937carrera wrote:Speak to these guys - they manufacture driveshafts to order and have a good reputation

http://www.cpsdrivelink.co.uk/