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Registration question

Postby jaber » 02 Aug 2018, 08:52

Hi finally got the polish Syncro registered come back as P reg, obviously the original polish log book said first reg 1996 but I think it was a government vehicle until then, vin number says 1986, do I just leave it or kick up a fuss with DVLA it’s taken best part of a year to get this far, might get busfest out of the way then ask dvla, what do we think

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Re: Registration question

Postby silverbullet » 02 Aug 2018, 09:13

I would say that you could well be stuck with a 1996 reg. DVLA are amazingly inflexible in their thinking IME.
Did you send them a copy of the VW "birth certificate" when you applied? That should be the definitive document.

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Re: Registration question

Postby 937carrera » 02 Aug 2018, 09:29

I would push with DVLA, if you have the evidence, and chassis number should be enough, if it can be authenticaed.

Who does the authentication ?

1. VW factory certificate
2. Recognised car club (recognised by DVLA, not all are, they have a list, don't know if club8090 is, but there is a general VW owners club who may be able to do this)
3. Copy of Glass's vehicle guide from the period. I have done this for quite a few people with '70's cars, but I don't think my books go as far as '86, I'll check though

Why ? 10 years older, 10 years sooner for historic vehicle status and no road tax.
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Re: Registration question

Postby silverbullet » 02 Aug 2018, 11:39

I suppose that the inference is that now the vehicle is claiming to be younger than it is in reality i.e. a 1996 reg is contrary to the usual rules for number plate swaps:
You can put an earlier year reg on a vehicle, but not a later one.
DVLA have got it wrong.

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Re: Registration question

Postby jaber » 02 Aug 2018, 14:51

Here’s where we are contacted dvla I I can prove from Volkswagen the real date of manufacture they will look into it but for now it’s legal although breaking the law officially so how would I get proof from vw, tried vw England they weren’t much help, tried to find a contact for vw poland no, tried Europe no, is there a web site that anyone knows of?

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Re: Registration question

Postby silverbullet » 02 Aug 2018, 18:33

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Re: Registration question

Postby Aidan » 02 Aug 2018, 19:41

The date of build is on the plate under the nearside seat it just needs someone to decode it, there is an online decoder, and the chassis number cross referenced against the published information on etos/etka etc.. gives you the date to within a month anyway, strange that DVLA don't seem to access vehicle manufacturers data sets
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Re: Registration question

Postby 937carrera » 02 Aug 2018, 22:51

I already posted the three possible methods, it doesn't matter what we know from the chassis plates, it is what is acceptable evidence to DVLA.

I have the Glass Car Guides because I bought them to help me, and other type 3 / type 4 owners with obtaining historic tax class. I've done a quite a few

My books go up to '83 but don't include commercial vehicles so I can't help directly . The VW auto museum is not currently available, last I heard the cost was about £50 and it took 2-3 months for them to get the documents out, they used to be free.

That leaves the recognised club route, there's only one I believe in this document https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/700857/v765x1-list-of-vehicle-owners-clubs.pdf

Unfortunately, club politics and rivalries have got in the way sometimes in the past
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