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Towing eyes - bolt on (very little mod required)

Postby Fabzzz » 10 Oct 2016, 21:04

Good evening people,

right i have been working on some bolt on tow eyes for 14 and 16 inch model.
- they are made in mild steel then tufriden which stop them rusting (proven and working - like on my CB antenna bracket).
- I am trying to do a stress analysis on them to prove that they are well above the job that they are design for to cover myself. I am perfectly happy to use them on my van. Being a safety/recovery feature it should be load rated but i can justify the cost of doing so (as very expensive) . And as we all know during recovery things can go wrong, and i don't want any repercussion in case of bad luck or accident.

See the picture below and judge for yourself. they are beasts !!!!

So i'm trying to have a idea of number for a batch. at the moment they 75 quid a piece WITHOUT the jacking tube and the shackle. if can have some make with the tube but they will be more expensive.

NOTE: that if you want to mount one on the right then you will have to cut the original recovery hoop.
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Re: Towing eyes

Postby Fabzzz » 10 Oct 2016, 21:06

more pic of the finish article.
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Re: Towing eyes

Postby Fabzzz » 10 Oct 2016, 21:08

and last pics. you see you have to cut the bash plate in order to fit the eye through.
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ANd voila. PM me if interested. i didnt put this in the for sale bit as i just wanna do it for the syncro guys and friends. :ok
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Re: Towing eyes - bolt on (very little mod required)

Postby Wedgbury » 11 Oct 2016, 06:41

Put me down for a pair Fabzzz, certainty better than the current point which is not I assume really for towing out vans.

Baz will need one with a bigger towing eye so you can feel it when he is up to the doors in water :D

Are you going to be looking at rear towing eyes as well as everybody seems to use the tow bar which is really only for towing trailers.
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Re: Towing eyes - bolt on (very little mod required)

Postby Fabzzz » 11 Oct 2016, 12:37

Wedgbury wrote:Put me down for a pair Fabzzz, certainty better than the current point which is not I assume really for towing out vans.

Baz will need one with a bigger towing eye so you can feel it when he is up to the doors in water :D

Are you going to be looking at rear towing eyes as well as everybody seems to use the tow bar which is really only for towing trailers.


Ok mate. With or without jacking tube?
Rears are next :)
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Re: Towing eyes - bolt on (very little mod required)

Postby Wedgbury » 11 Oct 2016, 18:46

Without the jacking tube. Thanks Fabzzz
Let me know how you want paying and when.
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Re: Towing eyes - bolt on (very little mod required)

Postby Fabzzz » 11 Oct 2016, 20:59

I need numbers first. Above 10 pairs god... this may take awhile :cry:
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Re: Towing eyes - bolt on (very little mod required)

Postby HarryMann » 11 Oct 2016, 22:45

Wedgbury wrote:Put me down for a pair Fabzzz, certainty better than the current point which is not I assume really for towing out vans.

Baz will need one with a bigger towing eye so you can feel it when he is up to the doors in water :D

Are you going to be looking at rear towing eyes as well as everybody seems to use the tow bar which is really only for towing trailers.

The factory loop David will tow 2 vans out of the mud... no-one I know has ever said they've seen a failed one but hey, I suppose they could rust. Just a bit limited in positioning sometimes.

It's a near perfect steel loop so nominally all in tension with the shear connection to the chassis nice & long and gas welded.

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Re: Towing eyes - bolt on (very little mod required)

Postby HarryMann » 11 Oct 2016, 22:51

Fabzz... do you mean tuftriding/tuftrided ?
As in cyanide case hardened ?
If so give call or PM
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Re: Towing eyes - bolt on (very little mod required)

Postby clift_d » 11 Oct 2016, 23:56

HarryMann wrote:The factory loop David will tow 2 vans out of the mud... no-one I know has ever said they've seen a failed one but hey, I suppose they could rust. Just a bit limited in positioning sometimes.

It's a near perfect steel loop so nominally all in tension with the shear connection to the chassis nice & long and gas welded.

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We got a second factory loop fitted to the front end of our van and then got a bridle recovery strap made up similar to this but with a 3 metre overall length to keep the angle between the two legs at around 30º to reduce sideways loading on the two towing eyes.

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Re: Towing eyes - bolt on (very little mod required)

Postby syncropaddy » 13 Oct 2016, 21:29

Fabzzz wrote:
- I am trying to do a stress analysis on them to prove that they are well above the job that they are design for to cover myself. I am perfectly happy to use them on my van. Being a safety/recovery feature it should be load rated but i can justify the cost of doing so (as very expensive) . And as we all know during recovery things can go wrong, and i don't want any repercussion in case of bad luck or accident.



I cant believe someone actually wrote that on a public forum .... If there is any sort of an accident involving those towing eyes you will swing because you have told the whole world that you cant justify the cost to have them certified and you admit that you 'should' have them rated and that things can go wrong.

Next thing you'll tell me is that Donald Trump and Boris Johnson will save the free world!!
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Re: Towing eyes - bolt on (very little mod required)

Postby Fabzzz » 14 Oct 2016, 17:15

syncropaddy wrote:
Fabzzz wrote:
- I am trying to do a stress analysis on them to prove that they are well above the job that they are design for to cover myself. I am perfectly happy to use them on my van. Being a safety/recovery feature it should be load rated but i can justify the cost of doing so (as very expensive) . And as we all know during recovery things can go wrong, and i don't want any repercussion in case of bad luck or accident.



I cant believe someone actually wrote that on a public forum .... If there is any sort of an accident involving those towing eyes you will swing because you have told the whole world that you cant justify the cost to have them certified and you admit that you 'should' have them rated and that things can go wrong.

Next thing you'll tell me is that Donald Trump and Boris Johnson will save the free world!!


Recovery équipement have to be rated. These tow eye are stronger than standard. Simple. Are they rated no. Am I happy to use them yes.
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Re: Towing eyes - bolt on (very little mod required)

Postby slowcoach » 14 Oct 2016, 17:22

syncropaddy wrote:Next thing you'll tell me is that Donald Trump and Boris Johnson will save the free world!!


Eh??
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Re: Towing eyes - bolt on (very little mod required)

Postby max and caddy » 14 Oct 2016, 20:02

I think as long as these are sold on basis of if it comes off and smacks you in face at 200 mph it's not my fault everything will be ok...they are obviously very strong...I would use one...I don't need a safety certificate for everthing I do in my life daily as I'm able to asses risk ....sometimes I'm wrong...if there's doubt I use a vague warning like "Oooh...stand back....and we are doomed...but I have faith in big chunks of steel generally..


Stop being a puff is a commonly used Cumbrian phrase for this sort of thing.
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Re: Towing eyes - bolt on (very little mod required)

Postby max and caddy » 14 Oct 2016, 20:09

Fabzzz wrote:
syncropaddy wrote:
Fabzzz wrote:
- I am trying to do a stress analysis on them to prove that they are well above the job that they are design for to cover myself. I am perfectly happy to use them on my van. Being a safety/recovery feature it should be load rated but i can justify the cost of doing so (as very expensive) . And as we all know during recovery things can go wrong, and i don't want any repercussion in case of bad luck or accident.



I cant believe someone actually wrote that on a public forum .... If there is any sort of an accident involving those towing eyes you will swing because you have told the whole world that you cant justify the cost to have them certified and you admit that you 'should' have them rated and that things can go wrong.

Next thing you'll tell me is that Donald Trump and Boris Johnson will save the free world!!


Recovery équipement have to be rated. These tow eye are stronger than standard. Simple. Are they rated no. Am I happy to use them yes.


Rated or certified? I believe lifting equipment needs a certificate...but recovery stuff doesn't...either way its irrelevant when your stuck and have what you have and that's it.
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