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Front Jacking Point

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Hi
As usual (at the moment), one job leads to several..
What was a front wheel arch repair now turns into jacking point/outer sill / inner sill etc
Do I have to remove the b post outer panel to gain access to repair properly?
Not bodging as per previous owner, just don't like doing that!
Any tips to make the job easier?
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If you are replacing the inner sill then the B post needs to be cut to allow access. The inner sill and jacking point are seam welded to the front outrigger. Inside the B post is a strengthening plate that is welded fron the front of the inner sill to the rear of the B post. If the arch, inner sill and outer sill have gone I will bet this has gone to. I have a few picks of the area you are talking about and will try to post some up tomorrow so you can see what is what.
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Jawin89 wrote:If you are replacing the inner sill then the B post needs to be cut to allow access. The inner sill and jacking point are seam welded to the front outrigger. Inside the B post is a strengthening plate that is welded fron the front of the inner sill to the rear of the B post. If the arch, inner sill and outer sill have gone I will bet this has gone to. I have a few picks of the area you are talking about and will try to post some up tomorrow so you can see what is what.


Thanks, this really helps..
Pretty much resigned to the fact the b pillar lower 'outer' will have to come off to allow access to the b pillar lower section.. might as well do the job properly..
Was going to buy a new complete inner sill, as patching only delays the inevitable...
Seem to be out of stock, so might have to fabricate it.,
Photos would really help for this..!
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Inner sill in place showing the strengthener that is welded to the front of the inner sill then in to the rear of the inner B pillar. Image

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Rear view of the inner sill and the strengthening plate that is plug welded to the top of the rear jacking point. I used a 4mm piece with 13mm holes drilled through it to allow for a decent weld. Image

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Blimey, that's a lot of work!!! But a decent job !!
Was going to say has the interior got to come out, but after seeing pictures won't ask that ;)
Did you buy a new inner sill repair panel or fabricate?
I have bought the jacking point, and b pillar outer, and outer sill/lower panel as they were not that expensive..

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Inner sill was bought as a whole from Alan Schofield. Mine is a fairly major restoration as most of the lower part was shot so cut out and replace. You can patch the sill if it's not to bad but it is what you find behind that could be an issue.
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Jawin89 wrote:Inner sill in place showing the strengthener that is welded to the front of the inner sill then in to the rear of the inner B pillar. Image

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Is this a like for like repair ie as original factory b post inner ?
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Did both sides on my pickup last year. The b-pillar inner slopes down and outward and is sandwiched between the edges of the inner sill and b-pillar outer, along with the reinforcing piece. These are seam welded together in a curved cut-out above the jp. I made my reinforcement a bit longer than original so it attaches at the double-thickness bit where the edge of the floor meets the b-pillar inner. I also plug-welded through from the inside. It passed the hi-lift test so I was happy with the strength !

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The inner B post had completely gone hardly anything left. The repair is as close as i could get it. The new bottom section of the inner B pillar is made from 2mm plate and sits about 35mm from the front of the sill. There is a slight angle on it but not going right to the front. It is as strong as the original but not identical. You have to work with what you have got sometimes. It has been jacked up on a trolley jack using the jacking point and doesn't move and that was before the front of the B pillar was replaced.
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Plan to put the van on stands at the front to help with access to do both inner sills, b post repair, outer sills..
Presume it will be ok so long as it is the same height on both sides, best to ask before as I know sills can be funny on some cars/vans...

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Is the rear of the front jacking point at the top seam welded to the inner sill when you repair or can you just seam weld to the inside of the front outrigger? Reason I ask is because I need to rebuild part of the inner sill near the jacking point and scratching my head how to do it. Have cut part of the front outrigger away for better access but any advice would be good. If I try and butt the top rear of the new jacking point up against the chassis member that the front outrigger is welded to then there is not enough room to slide the rod on the original t25 jack into the jacking point.

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i can send you a link to a thread i did on this, will pm you that and a password, should make life a bit easier
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Thanks Nick. That would be great.
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Good news Mike to see you're still active, hope everything ok..
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