Fractured Armature shaft on Starter

[Bumble the Rumble]

Hi All,

I have had a hole heap of trouble with my(beloved?) van 1.9 dg 1986, though i finally thought i was good to go...
Just done the first oil change on the van since the rebuild and the oil light stayed on (no buzzer though) then it cut out around a minute later with no alarming noises, went to start it up and just go a click so cleaned up the wires checked the battery all good so popped the started motor off today and it looks to have a fractured armature shaft, i assume a complete new motor is needed. The real concern is why when it hasn't had issues starting before?
I cant help but think the worst and the the engine has seized causing the break.


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Ta for the interest
JM

[Oldiebut goodie]

Hi All,

I have had a hole heap of trouble with my(beloved?) van 1.9 dg 1986, though i finally thought i was good to go...
Just done the first oil change on the van since the rebuild and the oil light stayed on (no buzzer though) then it cut out around a minute later with no alarming noises, went to start it up and just go a click so cleaned up the wires checked the battery all good so popped the started motor off today and it looks to have a fractured armature shaft, i assume a complete new motor is needed. The real concern is why when it hasn't had issues starting before?
I cant help but think the worst and the the engine has seized causing the break.


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Ta for the interest
JM

Bush worn out?

[Bumble the Rumble]

Not sure yet as i haven't got a tap so haven't tried to get it out, will be getting round to that and ordering a new motor this week. Fingers crossed it will start.

[Bumble the Rumble]

I got the bush out today (it was a bit worn) and replaced it and fitted the new starter motor and nothing but a single click :/

I got my volt meter to it to check and i was getting a stable 12+ volts form the positive bolt and between 3 and 6 volts from the switch spade and nothing on the connection between the started and solenoid. Im not too sure if thats all how it should be?
I have never heard any unusual nosies when starting so am not thinking its the flywheel broken though i'm running low on ideas atm.

Ta
JM

[Oldiebut goodie]

Between 3 & 6 volts will not be enough oomph to throw the solenoid. I would replace the ignition switch as first port of call together with cutting the terminal off the wire from the switch to the solenoid and replacing it ( Unless this has already been done and/or you are satisfied that there is no corrosion there as this can cause voltage drop)
You can check if the starter operates by using a wire directly from the battery positive to the spade - it should then operate the solenoid correctly.

[Bumble the Rumble]

Okay thanks for the suggestion, switch is on order now so shall see how it goes .