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Lez fine

Postby stephen t25 » 09 Jan 2018, 22:57

Hi all,

I have a 1.9 TDI whitestar multivan, I have received a Lez fine for £1000 reduced to £500, I know this wrong and have sent them a pic of my vin plate with all the weights etc and the registration document showing it as PLG and a picture of the van and they sent me a letter saying they need more information. Since then I phoned them with no joy and received a letter today saying I have to pay the fine or appeal with an appeal form attached, got 14 days to pay fine or 28 days to appeal, not sure what to do now, pretty worrying. What’s my next move to resolve this. Surely there are hundreds of t25s going in and out of the Lez zone all the time.

Any help would be very much appreciated as this is worrying,



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Re: Lez fine

Postby Oldiebut goodie » 09 Jan 2018, 23:42

Surely the lez charge is based upon the fact that it is a diesel - not any thing to do with plg/weight/etc? It is a low emission zone. Just checked my reg and my van would be liable to it also, cannot see any exemptions for plg/weight.( Other than if registered as a motor cara van/minibus etc) But then it doesn't seem to be infallible by all accounts.
I just don't drive in that hell hole anymore - congestion charge/lez charge/number of vehicles is enough to make me stay away.

E D I T - just checked my V5 and the van is still registered as a minibus so by their own criteria it isn't liable. In past posts on this charge apparently the moneygrabbers think that our vans are over their weight limit for m/carvans / minibuses etc. (there is no weight shown on my V5 anyway!)
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Re: Lez fine

Postby davidoft1 » 10 Jan 2018, 00:14

I was going to go in to that London last week in my California diesel, I assumed it would be exempt due to being a Camper and diesel, I assumed campers aren’t commercial, I checked online before I went and mines not so yours probably isn’t too, I didn’t go in my van, it did say under 3.5 tonnes is £100 over is £200
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Re: Lez fine

Postby Citizen Smith » 10 Jan 2018, 00:28

I just checked my 2.1WBK by typing in the registration number on this website:

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/low-em ... s-affected

and it identified it by type and colour and it said not liable although we do have it listed as the second vehicle for our 100% blue badge exemption and it is petrol rather than deisel so it might be liable without the Disabled excemption . Maybe another member could type in their 2.1WBX registration and see what it says.

Crumbs was that just on one visit? :shock: My advice would be to pursue them by phone, email and in writing with recorded delivery keeping copies of all you communications with them. Try not to let it fester. It will get much more difficult should you go outside of the appeal period as they may just hand chasing the fine over to some other department or organisation. (what a poo world we live in these days) We did have a problem with renewing our blue badge exemption due to the inordinate delay in renewal of the badge itself but to be honest we did find TFL helpful and cooperative.
I had not given this subject much attention as I have no diesel vehicles but that ain't necessarily so...
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Re: Lez fine

Postby Oldiebut goodie » 10 Jan 2018, 00:34

It's us diseasel owners that they get wrong for some reason.
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Re: Lez fine

Postby stephen t25 » 10 Jan 2018, 07:15

Morning ,
Looked at previous posts, and I think I should try and register it as MPV, right ? As it’s a multivan, going to ring them again this morning, this is stressing me out. :(


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Re: Lez fine

Postby matt brighton » 10 Jan 2018, 07:59

Hi

I had to register mine with TFL as a bona fide camper to get an exemption letter with photos to show its not a bunk bed nailed into back of a works TRIFLE and picture of weight plate.

Seems that back in the day when these things didn't matter all campers were registered as up to 7 tonnes and a panel van with no windows

Suggest you keep all correspondence with TFL on record and confirm all conversations by e mail just in case..

I found TFL very helpful in helping me with the registration process

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Lez fine

Postby clift_d » 10 Jan 2018, 08:08

It depends on vehicle class on the registration docs. If it's registered as an MPV (as our Westy high-top), Car, Motor cara van or Minibus (with less than 9 seats) then It's exempt. It it's registered as a Van or a Utility Vehicle (such as a Doka) then it's liable.

If your issue is the registration docs being wrong then I would suggest calling the LEZ people and explaining your predicament and asking them how to proceed?
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Re: Lez fine

Postby davidoft1 » 10 Jan 2018, 09:30

My California says PLG motor cara van on the documents and it still shows as not exempt, my petrol one is exempt, same year but a caravelle
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Re: Lez fine

Postby clift_d » 10 Jan 2018, 09:45

davidoft1 wrote:My California says PLG motor cara van on the documents and it still shows as not exempt, my petrol one is exempt, same year but a caravelle


You need to make sure the GVW is declared as less than 2.5t otherwise you will be liable.
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Re: Lez fine

Postby davidoft1 » 10 Jan 2018, 10:18

clift_d wrote:
davidoft1 wrote:My California says PLG motor cara van on the documents and it still shows as not exempt, my petrol one is exempt, same year but a caravelle


You need to make sure the GVW is declared as less than 2.5t otherwise you will be liable.



Docs show no gross weight, how do I get proof to change it ?
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Re: Lez fine

Postby fazzer » 10 Jan 2018, 11:28

Just done mine 1900 dg autohomes and it's exempt from charge.
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Re: Lez fine

Postby Citizen Smith » 10 Jan 2018, 13:29

davidoft1 wrote:
clift_d wrote:
davidoft1 wrote:My California says PLG motor cara van on the documents and it still shows as not exempt, my petrol one is exempt, same year but a caravelle


You need to make sure the GVW is declared as less than 2.5t otherwise you will be liable.



Docs show no gross weight, how do I get proof to change it ?


Well I certainly would not advise feigned ignorance where insurance, backlog payments or similar matters are in question but - sorry I just noticed my dog is asleep - sorry what was I saying?

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Re: Lez fine

Postby nobbyfox » 10 Jan 2018, 13:54

I too have a diesel camper (jx engined Westy)
When the LEZ was first announced, I checked my V5 and it was registered as a van, so therefore liable for a charge.
So I changed the vehicle type to a campervan (photos including interior was sent to DVLA) and it was re-registered as a camper with weight under 2500KG. Campervans under 2500KG are not liable for the charge.
It has been exempt ever since :ok
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Re: Lez fine

Postby clift_d » 10 Jan 2018, 15:36

davidoft1 wrote:Docs show no gross weight, how do I get proof to change it ?


I would guess a photo of the VIN plate if it shows less than 2500kg or a higlighted scan of the relevant page of the owners manual if it doesn't. :mrgreen:

Ours also shows no weight but the type is listed as MPV, i.e. car, which is exempt at any weight.
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