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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby Sir Brixalot » 12 Jun 2019, 08:41

Ninety MILLION Pounds on an Eastenders set?
I am generally pro the BBC, at least there's still BBC4 but something is very wrong at the moment. All that crap pseudo-market-economy ethos that Burt brought in needs to go. That list of overpaid"talent" is just the tip of the iceberg. The BBC pays most of its presenters via an intermediary which means their obscene salaries don't have to be declared. The current Government which under a previous colour footed the bill for pensioners has passed responsibility to the BBC, win-win. It can blame and attack the BBC which it's always been hostile to and still not pay the money
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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby itchyfeet » 12 Jun 2019, 11:28

Sir Brixalot wrote:Ninety MILLION Pounds on an Eastenders set?
I am generally pro the BBC, at least there's still BBC4 but something is very wrong at the moment. All that crap pseudo-market-economy ethos that Burt brought in needs to go. That list of overpaid"talent" is just the tip of the iceberg. The BBC pays most of its presenters via an intermediary which means their obscene salaries don't have to be declared. The current Government which under a previous colour footed the bill for pensioners has passed responsibility to the BBC, win-win. It can blame and attack the BBC which it's always been hostile to and still not pay the money



The problem is that they are trying to compete with the ratings of advert funded TV and pay extra like Sky, why are they doing this?

They don't need to compete they have a pay cheque coming in every day even if nobody even watched it?
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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby itchyfeet » 12 Jun 2019, 12:09

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When you realise the BBC broadcasts almost all over the world and much of it we can't even watch ( Why can't I see what the BBC are broadcasting overseas?) you realise it's probably the UK's world propaganda tool that's stopping every government scrapping it.

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if you can believe anything you read in the DM I make this 25% on broadcasting outside of the UK , why are we paying for that?

It says they spend 5bn 3.8bn comes from licence fee

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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby 937carrera » 12 Jun 2019, 12:48

World Service is an extension of the Foreign office........

BBC Worldwide has revenues of just over a billion (money from foreign broadcasters /subscribers) and profits (well EBITDA, but that's a well respected measure) of £0.1bn, that's what bridges the gap in the pie chart above

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/bbcstudios/2018/annual-review-2017-18

No mention of BBC Three though, there were some good programmes on there until it went internet only. I suppose I am not the target demographic
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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby Mocki » 12 Jun 2019, 15:40

at least they are not paying Ginger Tosser a huge amount to talk about himself anymore ....

I could save a few thousand quid for them , I have a few suggestions ......

1.Sack that Feltz woman, Elaine Flipping Paige and that Wet Rylan thing from Saturday afternoon off R2 for a start
2. Switch The TV channels off at midnight , no one is watching then .
3. Get rid of the "live" presenters off News24 out of traditional news time viewing , it’s all just constant loop of video anyway , so no need for the presenters between clips allday amd night .
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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby itchyfeet » 12 Jun 2019, 16:07

I can't make any suggestions about BBC saving money because I don't watch it. Jusg pay for it. :roll:
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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby Mocki » 12 Jun 2019, 19:03

No I only watch about two hours a week , but I listen to the radio all day every day tween 7 and 5
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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby itchyfeet » 12 Jun 2019, 19:23

Mocki wrote: I listen to the radio all day every day tween 7 and 5


Don't need a license for that apparently so you are paying for 2 hours a week.
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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby paganmanwales » 12 Jun 2019, 19:51

itchyfeet wrote:
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50pence a day is not excessive, there are still some yop programmes on BBC, History, science etc, plus all the radio stations, radio 4 is a bargain on its own!


it's not you are right but it's only 50p becuse everybody is virtually forced to pay

people should have the opportunity to watch free advertising funded commercial TV only and not the BBC just like they do in almost every other country i the world ( or maybe every country?)

BBC should be a pay extra service but it won't be 50p because you are getting your TV programmes subsidised by many people who won't be paying given the option.

If the BBC was to go pay extra service I think thier revenue would much smaller and so you may be paying more than Sky TV for it.

Would you be happy to pay £50 quid a month?

Ask yourself why are the BBC so afraid of loosing the license fee?


The last thing we need is another channel overrun with adverts. The BBC is a world class broadcaster respected around the globe and we should treasure it. Why are the BBC afraid of losing the licence? Err, because that is the end of the BBC? God help us if the only source of new is the daily wail or TV stations like Sky. The loss of the free TV licence is down to the government and NOBODY else. When the free licence was introduced pensions were very low with no pension credits. 20 years later with better pensions and the triple lock, I don't know if it can be justified.
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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby itchyfeet » 12 Jun 2019, 20:07

paganmanwales wrote:The BBC is a world class broadcaster respected around the globe and we should treasure it.


Anything free is respected so everybody around the world gets free ad free broadcasting and we pay or course they like it.

exactly my point, beautifully illustrated.
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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby Mocki » 12 Jun 2019, 21:29

itchyfeet wrote:
Mocki wrote: I listen to the radio all day every day tween 7 and 5


Don't need a license for that apparently so you are paying for 2 hours a week.

Yeah, I’ll not worry too much , it’s less than £3 a week .... I spend more on bog roll!
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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby Aidan » 13 Jun 2019, 06:31

Personally I would ban the advertising as it is a complete waste of everybody's time and promotes needless consumption and the destruction ultimately of the planet and human kind, so charging some of the elderly who can afford it 50p a day isn't really an issue to me; I pay the licence fee, I don't subscribe to any pay for services which show adverts; Jeremy Vine is the main reason I can't listen to Radio 2 along with their use of Craig Charles who is a talentless, shameless mysoginistic c nut and sh!t of a human, always has been always will be, imho of course
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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby hubcap61 » 13 Jun 2019, 08:20

The BBC uses subliminal advertising through blatent product placement in numerous programmes. Revenue through back handed deals?
Remember the days of the black tape on the Heinz Baked Beans tins on Blue Peter?
Almost every programme on BBC will have a close up of some brand name or another. Am happy to pay my Council Tax, Road Tax etc, but not television tax.( i do have a tv license begrudgingly). I already pay for SKY TV. Incidentally if you have SKY GO on your device you do not get access to BBC! So why can't we opt for that and not have to pay for a license?
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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby 937carrera » 13 Jun 2019, 09:11

hubcap61 wrote: if you have SKY GO on your device you do not get access to BBC! So why can't we opt for that and not have to pay for a license?


Because the BBC thinks it is Facebook.

It will only allow access to BBC content through iPlayer and you can only use iPlayer (and Sounds as well I suspect) when you are signed in so they can track your viewing habits.

I'm more concerned that they engage in this user tracking when there isn't a commercial motive through ads
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Re: End of universal free TV license for the elderly

Postby Dubworth » 13 Jun 2019, 10:52

I am of the opinion the system needs a shake up... I have a Sky subscription which I use and pay for only the parts of it I want. I have a TV License, I never watch any BBC programming as it grates on me and find their coverage of news etc. more and more biased these days. Time we made the BBC just another subscription package which we can opt out of if we so choose.
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